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		<title>By: Shani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my God, this is my story but without the parents and family in the cult. I can totally relate to everything you said, about the heirarchy in the Kingdom Hall, the hypocritical behaviour of the so called &quot;Christians&quot;, and the boyfriend situation. I felt like I was reading an exerpt from my life. I am glad there is someone out there who understands what I went through. I have been gone for many years now and I will never go back, never!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my God, this is my story but without the parents and family in the cult. I can totally relate to everything you said, about the heirarchy in the Kingdom Hall, the hypocritical behaviour of the so called &#8220;Christians&#8221;, and the boyfriend situation. I felt like I was reading an exerpt from my life. I am glad there is someone out there who understands what I went through. I have been gone for many years now and I will never go back, never!</p>
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		<title>By: Jen O'H</title>
		<link>http://jwrecovery.org/2009/09/the-day-that-changed-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-1558</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen O'H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 04:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A beautiful, moving and all too relatable story.  I think you just told several thousand, if not million, peoples stories as well.  It is difficult to transcend onto paper the loneliness and the utter despair that one feels as a JW, especially one that never got to choose, and you did it wonderfully.  I can also relate to never fitting in and being grilled by a panel of elders (I was 14, unbaptized and passed a note with questionable content) for over two hours, after Ministry School and after giving a talk. There was ONE elder that had took pity on me and kept trying to end the Inquisition.  I so remember his pitying eyes.

Thank you for sharing your story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A beautiful, moving and all too relatable story.  I think you just told several thousand, if not million, peoples stories as well.  It is difficult to transcend onto paper the loneliness and the utter despair that one feels as a JW, especially one that never got to choose, and you did it wonderfully.  I can also relate to never fitting in and being grilled by a panel of elders (I was 14, unbaptized and passed a note with questionable content) for over two hours, after Ministry School and after giving a talk. There was ONE elder that had took pity on me and kept trying to end the Inquisition.  I so remember his pitying eyes.</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing your story.</p>
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		<title>By: srvlodwrr</title>
		<link>http://jwrecovery.org/2009/09/the-day-that-changed-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-943</link>
		<dc:creator>srvlodwrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 08:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Roosevelt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roosevelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 18:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you people can find solace....</description>
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		<title>By: Sonia</title>
		<link>http://jwrecovery.org/2009/09/the-day-that-changed-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-689</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow,thaks for sharing your story, I have been studying with a Jehova&#039;s Witness for about 2 years now and we have come to the time I have to &quot;decide&quot; about &quot;baptized me&quot;, which I am not even sure I really want to do. Isn&#039;t it enough to be kind and try to live our lives as Jesus told us to??? Why would I cut any ties with my family or my husband&#039;s family because of my decisions, can&#039;t we all get along respecting each other points of view,it puzzles me a lot. Your story has helped me to decide in what to do and I am not converting. Thanks again!! :):)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow,thaks for sharing your story, I have been studying with a Jehova&#8217;s Witness for about 2 years now and we have come to the time I have to &#8220;decide&#8221; about &#8220;baptized me&#8221;, which I am not even sure I really want to do. Isn&#8217;t it enough to be kind and try to live our lives as Jesus told us to??? Why would I cut any ties with my family or my husband&#8217;s family because of my decisions, can&#8217;t we all get along respecting each other points of view,it puzzles me a lot. Your story has helped me to decide in what to do and I am not converting. Thanks again!! <img src='http://jwrecovery.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> :)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Was I really doing this for Jehovah or was I doing it for me?&quot; 

It truly shocks JWs, it always has, that I take a stand for Jehovah without an expectation for reward.  It does not matter to me whether I live or die at the end of this System of Things because it only matters how I walk, and that I walk with integrity towards what is right in the universal challenge. Paradise is  restored for justice’s sake not as a right or a personal reward. I marvel at the hubris of some Jehovah’s Witnesses and the focus of others, with their eyes on the prize, when the sole decision was to take a stand for Jehovah or for His Accuser. It does not matter that this paragraph is rooted in events of the past because it is who I am today and the principles it explains are with me still.  

I was his witness - though somehow my dad and I were never baptized as Witnesses.  Even I tried to have Bible studies with other as a boy.  But I never thought Jehovah would invalidate the test of Job by appealing to the greediness for life of some people over others, as is a core Jehovah&#039;s Witness teaching.  

Your story brings back memories, and remembrance of guilt and worry whether I was a good enough human being to be acceptable to God – whose earthly judgment was manifest in His anointed. My dad always wanted me to get baptised and marry a &quot;good&quot; Jehovah&#039;s Witness girl but I just could not. I did not experience the hypocrisy inside the congregation.  My repulsion was not based on this. I wanted a life partner who could add critical thinking to my strengths, and not sap it from me.  I wanted someone to accept me and grow with me and become one flesh. 

&quot;How had this been going on? How could Jehovah let this go on so rampantly and unchecked in his congregation? ... I had in mind my own spiritual crisis and didn’t want to be silently responsible for someone else’s... But what happened next would forever shake my faith in this organization that claims to be led and kept clean directly by God’s own Holy Spirit....to leave it in Jehovah’s hands.&quot;

Any person with an ounce of reasoning, one iota of critical thinking, has to ask how Incompetent must be The Almighty God?  What kind of spectacle is this theatre? What about all those judgment and destruction stories from the Hebrew Scriptures?! Where is the justice - typified by the restoration of Paradise?  How blind must His chosen be to accept a Spiritual Paradise double-talked as perpetual darkness masquerades New Light? Where is the hand of Jehovah when guidance is claimed from His Holy Spirit? Exactly how corrupt must it be before it is uncovered - and I refer to many things even the worldly people perceive such as the United Nations adultery! 

On my father&#039;s deathbed, he confided to me that if the end of this system did not come before he died he did not know what to think.  Though not a Witness he had associated with them and became an outcast within his own family in a paradoxical disfellowshipping, and it happens both ways folks. His was an apology to me, the boy who handled the Bible better than some congregational elders! He never knew about all the things we know from surfing the Internet: the indignant e-watchman, Silent Lamb victims, UN treachery, the factual history of the &quot;Governing Body,&quot; etc, etc... A critical thinking Jehovah&#039;s Witness using only the NWT Holy Scriptures for reasoning and recalling the Apostle Paul’s admonition to reason only needs to know the Scripture about trees identified by their fruit (Matthew 7: 20; Philippians 1: 9-11; Colossians 1:10) and that all things good find their source from Jehovah (James 1: 17) to know what’s going on here. 2+2=4 no matter the sum of interpretation from a self-proclaimed class &quot;annointed.&quot; 

If Jehovah says he cannot lie and he lies the whole construct shatters into minute shards. Likewise, if the translation of those sayings is defended as imperfectly scribed, though done under the governing Holy Spirit, then the Author is false for He willingly permits the lie in His name. (And I do not resort to the simple ad homonym “the Bible is full of contradictions” accusation but rest my eyes squarely on the Watchtower’s own claim as God’s Channel.)  

It is with this critical thinking that I now have a Bible study with Bethel Elders - a critical thinking from which I was shielded as a child when presented with the Jehovah’s Witness black and white worldview. I am lucky for my facility with the Bible, but the Elders are lucky too. They have the chance to truly examine their own Watchtower beliefs from an unexpected source (Matthew 25: 40).  And I have this opportunity to have the two-voice healing debate that, unlike leaving it up to someone else to minister, will free me rather than enslave me. 
 
It would surprise many who witness my Bible-based knowledge/rhetoric firsthand to know that I am agnostic moving toward atheist. But it would not surprise your readers that are familiar with the history. Every time a Witness comes to my door for my Bible study, I take the time to be healed anew by reviewing the accurate knowledge of what so influenced my past. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rqw4krMOug&amp;feature=player_embedded

Sorry for a long post. Keep going fellow Canuck. If there is a Jehovah, as the Watchtower represents Him, then not only is He All Knowing and The Personification of Love but he is merciful and a Perfect Judge of character. Would you even want to live in a paradise under a rule of something/someone less?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Was I really doing this for Jehovah or was I doing it for me?&#8221; </p>
<p>It truly shocks JWs, it always has, that I take a stand for Jehovah without an expectation for reward.  It does not matter to me whether I live or die at the end of this System of Things because it only matters how I walk, and that I walk with integrity towards what is right in the universal challenge. Paradise is  restored for justice’s sake not as a right or a personal reward. I marvel at the hubris of some Jehovah’s Witnesses and the focus of others, with their eyes on the prize, when the sole decision was to take a stand for Jehovah or for His Accuser. It does not matter that this paragraph is rooted in events of the past because it is who I am today and the principles it explains are with me still.  </p>
<p>I was his witness &#8211; though somehow my dad and I were never baptized as Witnesses.  Even I tried to have Bible studies with other as a boy.  But I never thought Jehovah would invalidate the test of Job by appealing to the greediness for life of some people over others, as is a core Jehovah&#8217;s Witness teaching.  </p>
<p>Your story brings back memories, and remembrance of guilt and worry whether I was a good enough human being to be acceptable to God – whose earthly judgment was manifest in His anointed. My dad always wanted me to get baptised and marry a &#8220;good&#8221; Jehovah&#8217;s Witness girl but I just could not. I did not experience the hypocrisy inside the congregation.  My repulsion was not based on this. I wanted a life partner who could add critical thinking to my strengths, and not sap it from me.  I wanted someone to accept me and grow with me and become one flesh. </p>
<p>&#8220;How had this been going on? How could Jehovah let this go on so rampantly and unchecked in his congregation? &#8230; I had in mind my own spiritual crisis and didn’t want to be silently responsible for someone else’s&#8230; But what happened next would forever shake my faith in this organization that claims to be led and kept clean directly by God’s own Holy Spirit&#8230;.to leave it in Jehovah’s hands.&#8221;</p>
<p>Any person with an ounce of reasoning, one iota of critical thinking, has to ask how Incompetent must be The Almighty God?  What kind of spectacle is this theatre? What about all those judgment and destruction stories from the Hebrew Scriptures?! Where is the justice &#8211; typified by the restoration of Paradise?  How blind must His chosen be to accept a Spiritual Paradise double-talked as perpetual darkness masquerades New Light? Where is the hand of Jehovah when guidance is claimed from His Holy Spirit? Exactly how corrupt must it be before it is uncovered &#8211; and I refer to many things even the worldly people perceive such as the United Nations adultery! </p>
<p>On my father&#8217;s deathbed, he confided to me that if the end of this system did not come before he died he did not know what to think.  Though not a Witness he had associated with them and became an outcast within his own family in a paradoxical disfellowshipping, and it happens both ways folks. His was an apology to me, the boy who handled the Bible better than some congregational elders! He never knew about all the things we know from surfing the Internet: the indignant e-watchman, Silent Lamb victims, UN treachery, the factual history of the &#8220;Governing Body,&#8221; etc, etc&#8230; A critical thinking Jehovah&#8217;s Witness using only the NWT Holy Scriptures for reasoning and recalling the Apostle Paul’s admonition to reason only needs to know the Scripture about trees identified by their fruit (Matthew 7: 20; Philippians 1: 9-11; Colossians 1:10) and that all things good find their source from Jehovah (James 1: 17) to know what’s going on here. 2+2=4 no matter the sum of interpretation from a self-proclaimed class &#8220;annointed.&#8221; </p>
<p>If Jehovah says he cannot lie and he lies the whole construct shatters into minute shards. Likewise, if the translation of those sayings is defended as imperfectly scribed, though done under the governing Holy Spirit, then the Author is false for He willingly permits the lie in His name. (And I do not resort to the simple ad homonym “the Bible is full of contradictions” accusation but rest my eyes squarely on the Watchtower’s own claim as God’s Channel.)  </p>
<p>It is with this critical thinking that I now have a Bible study with Bethel Elders &#8211; a critical thinking from which I was shielded as a child when presented with the Jehovah’s Witness black and white worldview. I am lucky for my facility with the Bible, but the Elders are lucky too. They have the chance to truly examine their own Watchtower beliefs from an unexpected source (Matthew 25: 40).  And I have this opportunity to have the two-voice healing debate that, unlike leaving it up to someone else to minister, will free me rather than enslave me. </p>
<p>It would surprise many who witness my Bible-based knowledge/rhetoric firsthand to know that I am agnostic moving toward atheist. But it would not surprise your readers that are familiar with the history. Every time a Witness comes to my door for my Bible study, I take the time to be healed anew by reviewing the accurate knowledge of what so influenced my past. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rqw4krMOug&amp;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rqw4krMOug&amp;feature=player_embedded</a></p>
<p>Sorry for a long post. Keep going fellow Canuck. If there is a Jehovah, as the Watchtower represents Him, then not only is He All Knowing and The Personification of Love but he is merciful and a Perfect Judge of character. Would you even want to live in a paradise under a rule of something/someone less?</p>
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		<title>By: GB</title>
		<link>http://jwrecovery.org/2009/09/the-day-that-changed-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-500</link>
		<dc:creator>GB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautifully written, I can relate to so much you&#039;ve said. It feels good to be free. Good for you for helping others with your story. Raymond Franz&#039;s book helped me so much at the time I left, and reading your story and others is so encouraging. Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautifully written, I can relate to so much you&#8217;ve said. It feels good to be free. Good for you for helping others with your story. Raymond Franz&#8217;s book helped me so much at the time I left, and reading your story and others is so encouraging. Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Loyd Newman</title>
		<link>http://jwrecovery.org/2009/09/the-day-that-changed-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-336</link>
		<dc:creator>Loyd Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for sharing your experience.  Even though I was disfellowshipped in 1990, I can relate so much to every detail you have shared.  It is truly heartwarming to have so many of my feelings expressed in your words.  Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for sharing your experience.  Even though I was disfellowshipped in 1990, I can relate so much to every detail you have shared.  It is truly heartwarming to have so many of my feelings expressed in your words.  Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: alison</title>
		<link>http://jwrecovery.org/2009/09/the-day-that-changed-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moxie, I can relate to what you&#039;ve been through.  I was before a panel just the same when I got pregnant.  It was three elders who I had to discuss personal information with.  They hounded me down.  If I didn&#039;t meet with them I know I would have been disfellowship.  But my dad was an elder at the time. And by their statndards if I was disfellowship, he could loose his position in the congregation.  So I agreed to meet with them and pretended (cried, to look repentent).  My son is 16 years old now, though he doesn&#039;t have a healthy relationship with his dad.  His dad was very much involved in the birth of our son, was there with me, when I delivered and everything. The elders asked me during our conversation if I was going to allow my son&#039;s father to be a part of his life, and how would I handle that.  I wanted to ask them what the heck do they mean, so many kids don&#039;t have a father.  What I&#039;m getting at I guess is so many of them pretend to be so holy and have deep dark secrets.  I have a older sister that I&#039;m very close to and she&#039;s disfellowship. I no longer go to the meetings, though I&#039;m not disfellowship.  That&#039;s my biggest problem with the religiion. How can you say God is love, then you allow families to shun each other because they don&#039;t go along with the belief.  My mother died in a nursing home a year and a half ago.  And do you know out of two congregations in my home town, only 2 sisters brought food to my house.  Only someone call was two of the elders and that was to make the arrangements.  Some love.  That hurt me more than anything I&#039;ve ever experience before.  My place of employment and outside people who were not JW&#039;s were the ones that brought food and gave monetary offerings.  At the visition at the funeral home I can count on two hands how many JW actually came to the funeral home.  My mother was faithful until she went into the nursing home and died.  They are some of the biggest fakers, and their children live double lives.  I don&#039;t know what to believe anymore with this religion I am so confused.  Thanks so much for sharing your story. Sorry for any typos,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moxie, I can relate to what you&#8217;ve been through.  I was before a panel just the same when I got pregnant.  It was three elders who I had to discuss personal information with.  They hounded me down.  If I didn&#8217;t meet with them I know I would have been disfellowship.  But my dad was an elder at the time. And by their statndards if I was disfellowship, he could loose his position in the congregation.  So I agreed to meet with them and pretended (cried, to look repentent).  My son is 16 years old now, though he doesn&#8217;t have a healthy relationship with his dad.  His dad was very much involved in the birth of our son, was there with me, when I delivered and everything. The elders asked me during our conversation if I was going to allow my son&#8217;s father to be a part of his life, and how would I handle that.  I wanted to ask them what the heck do they mean, so many kids don&#8217;t have a father.  What I&#8217;m getting at I guess is so many of them pretend to be so holy and have deep dark secrets.  I have a older sister that I&#8217;m very close to and she&#8217;s disfellowship. I no longer go to the meetings, though I&#8217;m not disfellowship.  That&#8217;s my biggest problem with the religiion. How can you say God is love, then you allow families to shun each other because they don&#8217;t go along with the belief.  My mother died in a nursing home a year and a half ago.  And do you know out of two congregations in my home town, only 2 sisters brought food to my house.  Only someone call was two of the elders and that was to make the arrangements.  Some love.  That hurt me more than anything I&#8217;ve ever experience before.  My place of employment and outside people who were not JW&#8217;s were the ones that brought food and gave monetary offerings.  At the visition at the funeral home I can count on two hands how many JW actually came to the funeral home.  My mother was faithful until she went into the nursing home and died.  They are some of the biggest fakers, and their children live double lives.  I don&#8217;t know what to believe anymore with this religion I am so confused.  Thanks so much for sharing your story. Sorry for any typos,</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You touched my heart with love. Jesus said you will know them for the love they have for one another.You have a lot of love for others to share your story. Because you are helping the broken hearted find relief in the truth. And that takes great courage and honesty.Thank you. Linda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You touched my heart with love. Jesus said you will know them for the love they have for one another.You have a lot of love for others to share your story. Because you are helping the broken hearted find relief in the truth. And that takes great courage and honesty.Thank you. Linda</p>
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